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Dale
2015-10-15 01:51:10 UTC
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what is the shape/size of the uni/multi-verse?

if it is countable, what is on the other side of the last count?
nothing? isn't nothing "space"? doesn't more "space" mean you have
exceed the counts in the cardinality supposed?

what about spacetime? time could be on the other side of the last count,
after some extrusion of the space out of it

but time without space leaves no space for which anything to experience
that time, but time, so there can be a perimeter other than "nothing",
as long as there is spacetime or space(OR)time

what is the shape/size of the time perimeter? would have to be a
continuum cardinality or the "nothing"/space debate would enter in
again, pockets making up low ordinality might preclude a perimeter
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Dale
http://www.dalekelly.org
Dale
2015-10-15 03:27:22 UTC
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what is the shape/size of the uni/multi-verse?
if it is countable, what is on the other side of the last count?
nothing? isn't nothing "space"? doesn't more "space" mean you have
exceed the counts in the cardinality supposed?
what about spacetime? time could be on the other side of the last count,
after some extrusion of the space out of it
but time without space leaves no space for which anything to experience
that time, but time, so there can be a perimeter other than "nothing",
as long as there is spacetime or space(OR)time
what is the shape/size of the time perimeter? would have to be a
continuum cardinality or the "nothing"/space debate would enter in
again, pockets making up low ordinality might preclude a perimeter
--
Dale
http://www.dalekelly.org
Try a different newsgroup.
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I think I'll stick around these groups for discussions like this
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Dale
http://www.dalekelly.org
Andrew
2015-10-15 10:39:52 UTC
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Post by Dale
what is the shape/size of the uni/multi-verse?
if it is countable, what is on the other side of the last count?
nothing? isn't nothing "space"? doesn't more "space" mean you have
exceed the counts in the cardinality supposed?
what about spacetime? time could be on the other side of the last count,
after some extrusion of the space out of it
but time without space leaves no space for which anything to experience
that time, but time, so there can be a perimeter other than "nothing",
as long as there is spacetime or space(OR)time
what is the shape/size of the time perimeter? would have to be a
continuum cardinality or the "nothing"/space debate would enter in
again, pockets making up low ordinality might preclude a perimeter
--
Dale
http://www.dalekelly.org
Try a different newsgroup.
</newsgroups_restored>
I think I'll stick around these groups for discussions like this
Please do.

raven1
2015-10-15 09:51:18 UTC
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Post by Dale
what is the shape/size of the uni/multi-verse?
if it is countable, what is on the other side of the last count?
nothing? isn't nothing "space"? doesn't more "space" mean you have
exceed the counts in the cardinality supposed?
what about spacetime? time could be on the other side of the last count,
after some extrusion of the space out of it
but time without space leaves no space for which anything to experience
that time, but time, so there can be a perimeter other than "nothing",
as long as there is spacetime or space(OR)time
what is the shape/size of the time perimeter? would have to be a
continuum cardinality or the "nothing"/space debate would enter in
again, pockets making up low ordinality might preclude a perimeter
It's all a bunch of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff, really.
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