Discussion:
where did religion come from?
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Dale
2015-05-07 02:55:54 UTC
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I'm going to put aside the thought that evolution is a part of religion

would you have to admit the reverse? where else would religion come from?

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

apparently religion has become part of a large part of natural selection

maybe it goes in cycles, ever watch Ancient Aliens? it appears what it
constructed in stone could be construed as religious
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Dale http://www.dalekelly.org
The BORG
2015-05-07 03:00:42 UTC
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All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for Intelligence.

If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.

The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of them are
true.

However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the religoins, you
should not reject the idea of a Creator, or Creators.

It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
Post by Dale
I'm going to put aside the thought that evolution is a part of religion
would you have to admit the reverse? where else would religion come from?
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
apparently religion has become part of a large part of natural selection
maybe it goes in cycles, ever watch Ancient Aliens? it appears what it
constructed in stone could be construed as religious
Checkmate
2015-05-07 04:27:24 UTC
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In article <***@4ax.com>, ***@future.com
says...
Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of them are
true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the religoins, you
should not reject the idea of a Creator, or Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions are based on
mythology and bullshit, control and money. Never trust anyone who
claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he wants (if anything)
from us.

[...]
--
Checkmate
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Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
2015-05-07 23:13:32 UTC
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Post by Checkmate
says...
Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of them are
true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the religoins, you
should not reject the idea of a Creator, or Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions are based on
mythology and bullshit, control and money. Never trust anyone who
claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he wants (if anything)
from us.
[...]
Oh thou fool. Religions are philosophy and, as such
require deep thinking.

Atheism is non-thinking. Rejection is easily done
in the absence of thinking. It's simply an animalistic
gut reaction.

Atheists pretty much prove the Creator tolerates
unworthy beings.
--
Sir Gregory
Checkmate
2015-05-07 23:55:32 UTC
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Post by Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
Post by Checkmate
says...
Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of them are
true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the religoins, you
should not reject the idea of a Creator, or Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions are based on
mythology and bullshit, control and money. Never trust anyone who
claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he wants (if anything)
from us.
[...]
Oh thou fool. Religions are philosophy and, as such
require deep thinking.
Blind faith is NOT philosophy.
Post by Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
Atheism is non-thinking. Rejection is easily done
in the absence of thinking. It's simply an animalistic
gut reaction.
Atheists pretty much prove the Creator tolerates
unworthy beings.
I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic.
--
Checkmate
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"Usenet, without a net!" (TM)
KotAGoR XXXIV
AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012
co-winner, Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
Line & Sinker award, May 2001
Copyright © 2015
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Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
2015-05-07 23:58:54 UTC
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Post by Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
Post by Checkmate
says...
Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of them are
true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the religoins, you
should not reject the idea of a Creator, or Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions are based on
mythology and bullshit, control and money. Never trust anyone who
claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he wants (if anything)
from us.
[...]
Oh thou fool. Religions are philosophy and, as such
require deep thinking.
Blind faith is NOT philosophy.
Post by Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
Atheism is non-thinking. Rejection is easily done
in the absence of thinking. It's simply an animalistic
gut reaction.
Atheists pretty much prove the Creator tolerates
unworthy beings.
I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic.
Basically the same thing, dude. An agnostic
is an atheist who's too chicken to admit he's
an atheist.
--
Sir Gregory
Checkmate
2015-05-08 02:50:19 UTC
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Post by Checkmate
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Post by Checkmate
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Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of them are
true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the religoins, you
should not reject the idea of a Creator, or Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions are based on
mythology and bullshit, control and money. Never trust anyone who
claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he wants (if anything)
from us.
[...]
Oh thou fool. Religions are philosophy and, as such
require deep thinking.
Blind faith is NOT philosophy.
Post by Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
Atheism is non-thinking. Rejection is easily done
in the absence of thinking. It's simply an animalistic
gut reaction.
Atheists pretty much prove the Creator tolerates
unworthy beings.
I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic.
Basically the same thing, dude. An agnostic
is an atheist who's too chicken to admit he's
an atheist.
You're a fucking idiot. Agnostics are the only ones who know what
they're talking about. You can't definitely prove there is or isn't a
Creator.
--
Checkmate
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"Usenet, without a net!" (TM)
KotAGoR XXXIV
AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012
co-winner, Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
Line & Sinker award, May 2001
Copyright © 2015
all rights reserved
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2015-05-08 02:55:59 UTC
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Post by Checkmate
On Thu, 7 May 2015 16:55:32 -0700, Checkmate
Post by Checkmate
On Wed, 6 May 2015 21:27:24 -0700, Checkmate
Post by Checkmate
Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for
Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of
them are true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the religoins,
you should not reject the idea of a Creator, or Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions are
based on mythology and bullshit, control and money. Never trust
anyone who
claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he wants (if
anything) from us.
[...]
Oh thou fool. Religions are philosophy and, as such
require deep thinking.
Blind faith is NOT philosophy.
Atheism is non-thinking. Rejection is easily done
in the absence of thinking. It's simply an animalistic
gut reaction.
Atheists pretty much prove the Creator tolerates
unworthy beings.
I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic.
Basically the same thing, dude. An agnostic
is an atheist who's too chicken to admit he's
an atheist.
You're a fucking idiot. Agnostics are the only ones who know what
they're talking about. You can't definitely prove there is or isn't a
Creator.
i can prove there is
Checkmate
2015-05-08 03:13:43 UTC
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On Thu, 7 May 2015 16:55:32 -0700, Checkmate
Post by Checkmate
On Wed, 6 May 2015 21:27:24 -0700, Checkmate
Post by Checkmate
Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for
Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of
them are true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the religoins,
you should not reject the idea of a Creator, or Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions are
based on mythology and bullshit, control and money. Never trust
anyone who
claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he wants (if
anything) from us.
[...]
Oh thou fool. Religions are philosophy and, as such
require deep thinking.
Blind faith is NOT philosophy.
Atheism is non-thinking. Rejection is easily done
in the absence of thinking. It's simply an animalistic
gut reaction.
Atheists pretty much prove the Creator tolerates
unworthy beings.
I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic.
Basically the same thing, dude. An agnostic
is an atheist who's too chicken to admit he's
an atheist.
You're a fucking idiot. Agnostics are the only ones who know what
they're talking about. You can't definitely prove there is or isn't a
Creator.
i can prove there is
Go ahead. I made a Catholic priest look like a fool in a catechism
class when I was 17, after he announced to all of us that he could prove
there was a God. When I was done with him, he didn't know WTF to say.
--
Checkmate
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"Usenet, without a net!" (TM)
KotAGoR XXXIV
AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012
co-winner, Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
Line & Sinker award, May 2001
Copyright © 2015
all rights reserved
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2015-05-08 03:25:52 UTC
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On Thu, 7 May 2015 16:55:32 -0700, Checkmate
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Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for
Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of
them are true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the religoins,
you should not reject the idea of a Creator, or Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions are
based on mythology and bullshit, control and money. Never trust
anyone who
claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he wants (if
anything) from us.
[...]
Oh thou fool. Religions are philosophy and, as such
require deep thinking.
Blind faith is NOT philosophy.
Atheism is non-thinking. Rejection is easily done
in the absence of thinking. It's simply an animalistic
gut reaction.
Atheists pretty much prove the Creator tolerates
unworthy beings.
I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic.
Basically the same thing, dude. An agnostic
is an atheist who's too chicken to admit he's
an atheist.
You're a fucking idiot. Agnostics are the only ones who know what
they're talking about. You can't definitely prove there is or
isn't a Creator.
i can prove there is
Go ahead. I made a Catholic priest look like a fool in a catechism
class when I was 17, after he announced to all of us that he could
prove there was a God. When I was done with him, he didn't know WTF
to say.
i can only do it in person it's not a text thing
Checkmate
2015-05-08 10:11:41 UTC
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On Thu, 7 May 2015 16:55:32 -0700, Checkmate
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Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for
Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of
them are true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the religoins,
you should not reject the idea of a Creator, or Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions are
based on mythology and bullshit, control and money. Never trust
anyone who
claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he wants (if
anything) from us.
[...]
Oh thou fool. Religions are philosophy and, as such
require deep thinking.
Blind faith is NOT philosophy.
Atheism is non-thinking. Rejection is easily done
in the absence of thinking. It's simply an animalistic
gut reaction.
Atheists pretty much prove the Creator tolerates
unworthy beings.
I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic.
Basically the same thing, dude. An agnostic
is an atheist who's too chicken to admit he's
an atheist.
You're a fucking idiot. Agnostics are the only ones who know what
they're talking about. You can't definitely prove there is or
isn't a Creator.
i can prove there is
Go ahead. I made a Catholic priest look like a fool in a catechism
class when I was 17, after he announced to all of us that he could
prove there was a God. When I was done with him, he didn't know WTF
to say.
i can only do it in person it's not a text thing
Well, HE couldn't do it in person.
--
Checkmate
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"Usenet, without a net!" (TM)
KotAGoR XXXIV
AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012
co-winner, Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
Line & Sinker award, May 2001
Copyright © 2015
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2015-05-08 12:13:16 UTC
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Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for
Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of
them are true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the
religoins, you should not reject the idea of a Creator, or
Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions
are based on mythology and bullshit, control and money.
Never trust anyone who
claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he wants (if
anything) from us.
[...]
Oh thou fool. Religions are philosophy and, as such
require deep thinking.
Blind faith is NOT philosophy.
Atheism is non-thinking. Rejection is easily done
in the absence of thinking. It's simply an animalistic
gut reaction.
Atheists pretty much prove the Creator tolerates
unworthy beings.
I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic.
Basically the same thing, dude. An agnostic
is an atheist who's too chicken to admit he's
an atheist.
You're a fucking idiot. Agnostics are the only ones who know what
they're talking about. You can't definitely prove there is or
isn't a Creator.
i can prove there is
Go ahead. I made a Catholic priest look like a fool in a catechism
class when I was 17, after he announced to all of us that he could
prove there was a God. When I was done with him, he didn't know WTF
to say.
i can only do it in person it's not a text thing
Well, HE couldn't do it in person.
i'm not him and this ain't then
Checkmate
2015-05-09 06:15:05 UTC
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On Thu, 7 May 2015 16:55:32 -0700, Checkmate
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Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of
them are true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the
religoins, you should not reject the idea of a Creator, or
Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions
are based on mythology and bullshit, control and money.
Never trust anyone who
claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he wants (if
anything) from us.
[...]
Oh thou fool. Religions are philosophy and, as such
require deep thinking.
Blind faith is NOT philosophy.
Atheism is non-thinking. Rejection is easily done
in the absence of thinking. It's simply an animalistic
gut reaction.
Atheists pretty much prove the Creator tolerates
unworthy beings.
I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic.
Basically the same thing, dude. An agnostic
is an atheist who's too chicken to admit he's
an atheist.
You're a fucking idiot. Agnostics are the only ones who know what
they're talking about. You can't definitely prove there is or
isn't a Creator.
i can prove there is
Go ahead. I made a Catholic priest look like a fool in a catechism
class when I was 17, after he announced to all of us that he could
prove there was a God. When I was done with him, he didn't know WTF
to say.
i can only do it in person it's not a text thing
Well, HE couldn't do it in person.
i'm not him and this ain't then
And you ain't even a choir boy.
--
Checkmate
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"Usenet, without a net!" (TM)
KotAGoR XXXIV
AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012
co-winner, Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
Line & Sinker award, May 2001
Copyright © 2015
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2015-05-09 06:29:10 UTC
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Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the
relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none
of them are true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the
religoins, you should not reject the idea of a Creator, or
Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and not
in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions
are based on mythology and bullshit, control and money.
Never trust anyone who
claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he wants
(if anything) from us.
[...]
Oh thou fool. Religions are philosophy and, as such
require deep thinking.
Blind faith is NOT philosophy.
Atheism is non-thinking. Rejection is easily done
in the absence of thinking. It's simply an animalistic
gut reaction.
Atheists pretty much prove the Creator tolerates
unworthy beings.
I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic.
Basically the same thing, dude. An agnostic
is an atheist who's too chicken to admit he's
an atheist.
You're a fucking idiot. Agnostics are the only ones who know
what they're talking about. You can't definitely prove there
is or isn't a Creator.
i can prove there is
Go ahead. I made a Catholic priest look like a fool in a
catechism class when I was 17, after he announced to all of us
that he could prove there was a God. When I was done with him,
he didn't know WTF to say.
i can only do it in person it's not a text thing
Well, HE couldn't do it in person.
i'm not him and this ain't then
And you ain't even a choir boy.
and i never have been

Smiler
2015-05-08 21:32:29 UTC
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Post by Checkmate
On Wed, 6 May 2015 21:27:24 -0700, Checkmate
Post by Checkmate
Post by The BORG
All the religions were placed on Earth as a Test for Intelligence.
If a person was Intelligent he would reject ALL the relgions.
The religons are all invented and fabricated stories, none of them
are true.
However, if you are intelligent enough to reject the religoins,
you should not reject the idea of a Creator, or Creators.
It is in Creation where you will find who you are looking for and
not in any of the religions.
I totally agree. There may be a Creator, but all religions are
based on mythology and bullshit, control and money. Never trust
anyone who claims to know anything about a Creator, or what he
wants (if anything) from us.
[...]
Oh thou fool. Religions are philosophy and, as such require deep
thinking.
Blind faith is NOT philosophy.
Atheism is non-thinking. Rejection is easily done in the absence of
thinking. It's simply an animalistic gut reaction.
Atheists pretty much prove the Creator tolerates unworthy beings.
I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic.
Basically the same thing, dude. An agnostic is an atheist who's too
chicken to admit he's an atheist.
You're a fucking idiot. Agnostics are the only ones who know what
they're talking about. You can't definitely prove there is or isn't a
Creator.
i can prove there is
Bet you can't.
--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
Bob Casanova
2015-05-08 19:23:06 UTC
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On Thu, 07 May 2015 19:58:54 -0400, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
<snip>
Post by Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
Post by Checkmate
I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic.
Basically the same thing, dude. An agnostic
is an atheist who's too chicken to admit he's
an atheist.
Oxforddictionaries.com disagrees, dude...

"Definition of agnostic in English:
noun
A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known
of the existence or nature of God."

...as does Wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

...which gives considerably more info.

It's about the perceived limits of knowledge, not about
belief or disbelief, although the meaning seems to be
changing to be synonymous with what's generally known as
weak atheism. Seems a shame, since AFAIK there's no other
term for the original meaning.
--
Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov
Bob Casanova
2015-05-07 18:22:35 UTC
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Post by Dale
I'm going to put aside the thought that evolution is a part of religion
Wise choice.
Post by Dale
would you have to admit the reverse? where else would religion come from?
From people wondering about nature, and making up stories to
explain what they see.
Post by Dale
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
apparently religion has become part of a large part of natural selection
maybe it goes in cycles, ever watch Ancient Aliens? it appears what it
constructed in stone could be construed as religious
Ancient Aliens have nothing to do with it.
--
Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov
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